Darlie Routier - Over 14 years now-New 2012 Info
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Finally as small as it is, maybe hope with result but the end of this month- May! >
http://www.fordarlieroutier.org
Darlie has no history of mental illness. She has no abuse or incest in her background or no criminal record. She was faithful to her husband and there is no fact from anyone saying differently on any of this.
Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad, meeting Darin in a Western Sizzlin', where her mother worked and so did Darin as a cook. He was 17 and she was 15 and they married four years later. After moving to the Dallas area he began his own small company that tested electronic components and when he became a success in the early nineties they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.
The neighbors never saw them as wild though. She had kids in she baked cookies for and those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons. Darin and Darlie helped out a cancer patient neighbor with a mortgage payment and seemed to have a heart. Whose idea was that, I don’t know, but Darlie was baking the cookies.
All of a sudden their business went downhill and they got behind on their bills; owing $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards. About a month before the murders Darlie considered suicide it is said by Darin and an incomplete diary entry. It was a fleeting thought apparently. My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed, for it is true. Maybe to different extents but if you know the word you have thought about it, if you have something you just think you can;t face you may think about it, so I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.
New Insight into the Darlie Routier Case Questions unanswered and Darin divorcing Darlie - Read bold at bottom.
Darin is now divorcing Darlie. Is he in the clear for the good now, no questions asked? Darlie's lawyer was to protect Darin from looking guilty I have read; with insinuations that is why many things that might clear Darlie were not seen by the jury.
Investigators for the prosecution taking the Fifth Amendment; how can this be?
Jury Did Not See This
Jury Did Not See This
Never brought to the attention of the jury were other things of alarm and great importance included the pictures of Darlie's cut's and bruises on her arms taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. One juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs. I would be sure others would have agreed. That is when I knew without a doubt! These are defense wounds, clearly.
Bloody fingerprints have been found that do not belong to Darlie, Darin, the children or any of the police or other people in the Routier house the night of the murder. This contradicts
"When they arrested Darlie, we just pretty much lost it," says Darin, and says they have never been able to grieve for their children but it is Darlie's husband and mother who have steadfastly continued the fight. They have appeared 10 times on nationally televised talk shows, printed up bumper stickers and have a toll-free phone number ( (888) 883-FAIR) appealing for donations and information that could help "find the real person who attacked Darlie and murdered her children." They have gathered support .Right now, they say, freeing Darlie is the only fight that counts.
Drake Routier looks just like his mother. The blue eyes, wide face, and his mother's mouth.The court gave Darin's parents custody of the child, who was 7 months old at the time of the murders, they live in Lubbock, but Darin has unrestricted visitation rights. They baby knows his mother only through pictures. testimony given during her trial that there were no fingerprints found outside the home. If Darin is guilty of nothing how could they take custody of his child from him?
Darin and Darlie moved into her mother's home after the murders and lost the $200,000 house they built, also their 35-foot cabin cruiser, '86 Jaguar, plus some. Legal fees and bad publicity about the case ruined him financially. His electronics business, bringing a salary of $500,000 in 1995, lost 14 of its 17 clients and all employees. He estimates the trial cost him more than $100,000, and although not yet filing for bankruptcy, it seems to be the next step.
There was many bad testimonies from people making Darlie look bad, there was no testimonies of the people who saw her much differently. Darin and Ms.Kee claim Darlie's trial mocked the judicial system. Evidence that would have cleared her was never presented, witnesses who could have contradicted the prosecution's assertions never testified, forensics testing was botched, depositions were distorted. Forensic fingerprint tests done after Darlie's trial still show that she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted. A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table did not belong to anyone living in her home, and two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage in which Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the Darin's home after attacking her and her two sons. No matter, repeated requests, the Court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.
Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint being the first print.Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg proved positively Darlin is excluded as the owner of this print. Darlin's exclusion as the source of this print indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood, on the night of the murders.
The second print taken from this door is a latent print located below the patent bloody fingerprint. Latent print consultant Robert Lohnes checked this print in 2003 and said that it matched the second finger joint of Darin Routier on the middle finger of the left hand. In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.
Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission. Surely any law would be all over this, how many ways could this be the answer? Maybe not even the way Darin meant it to be but caused with unlawful schemes. I could understand them suspecting him, I really could, and why don't they? I don't believe Darlie would even suspect him, but if I were Darlie I would have to give that some serious thought, but I think Darlie is as I say so much like my own daughter. Either a lack of intelligence or too much into her self, which does not equal a murderer. I keep waiting for my daughter to change and act more mature, but I suspect like Darlie it is just who she is. No changing.
The Birthday Party film that was viewed by the jury that made me think that is a killer, showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not show the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown?
Neighbors saw a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors saw that same car leaving the area on thenight of the murders.
There was talk the police did not protect the evidence as they gathered it possibly damaging it's origins. Is this true? The screen investigators told the press it was cut from the inside being later proven in court to be cut from the outside. Hm? Police investigated this? The investigators took the fifth amendment not talking, what were they afraid to say? You know without doubt they are hiding something.
http://www.larryrobison.org/pages/darlie.htm
When the paramedics arrived at the scene they said that Darin Routier was outside, but Darin was inside trying to save his children, so who was the man they thought was him? It was reported the testimony of the nurses was coached and rehearsed in mock trials by the prosecution prior to their testimony. Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikely Darlie would or even could have done this herself.
There was a pubic hair found in the living room. Who's? Did debris on the knife in the kitchen get debris on the knife from police in the kitchen investigating the murder or did it come from the screen door? Darin's jeans had blood on them, no one should look into this? Darin Routier admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which meant someone breaking into their home. He admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was planned for when no one was at home. No jury has ever heard this admission! (Dear God! He is walking around free, he looks the more guilty of the two!) Sometimes I think children could run this world better. Does nothing enter their minds about this? Is it too late because they would be hanging themselves? Are they just that lazy? Pick someone, have it over?
The court reporter made mistakes in the manuscript so was there an improper read-back of testimony? Why is prosecution not forced to turn over evidence they have that should be available to both sides? Gee anyone who watches TV knows this rule. WHY? DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing? Many, such as people interested in writing Darlie's story have come to her side and since then have run into convenience problems seeing her or simply blocked! Look, the writing is on the wall? A crook is a crook, likeour leaders, like breeding leaches, like nursing homes and social workers, and ombudsman. But how they want to protect the rapist, make sure he really is guilty before doing anything to him, then let him run free as soon as he gets out of his little punishment. Let's don't even think of whacking him...even if DNA proves he is the one.
There use to be witch hunts, unfairly carried out, maybe its time for Warlock hunts, justifiably! They can stay alive...minus their weapons! Sounds more than fair. The judicial system is scared to death of that...why on earth? If they can't keep track of them at least at least we can know what they are not doing. I am not talking chemical. I am talking what they deserve for what they have done to women and especially little children. I want so bad to scream when I hear how little they do to these men, how little our children mean to the judicial system.
Wake up, watch your back. It could be prison, pain, mental and physical cruelty Darlie will get them for. The list goes on and they know and besides that people like me who will not let anyone forget how accountable they are and how often. Look at JonBenet Ramsey, her justice, her family, her poor mother. All those years with their eyes never looking anywhere but at mourning parents. Now does anyone think of the father, the brother? Does anyone think their lives will ever be normal? How different is the case? Someone runs in and makes a Great Basil Detective decision and that's it! Look no farther. The whole force there should have been fired. They ruined three peoples lives and found no justice for JonBenet. Big surprise. We know there is no justice and we know it a little more every day. What is wrong with these people put there to protect and help us? Do they need testing? Who are they? Did they come from prisons as someone in California says theirs do? Maybe we should be investigating them, certainly looks that way.
There are so many and I think I would believe here is a case Darlie has against them for sure, as there many times are, they are covering their butts, with no compassion or interest in finding the true criminal. They just don't want it found out they were wrong and if they do, sure they may have to pay big which someone above them is warning them about, but for them they should have to pay, jail, just like they have put this woman through. If she is innocent, they are guilty, but what ever happens to them, they have committed a crime and are right now as far as I am concerned. I am sure the law would force them to turn over evidence....or will it go so long it all just gets lost? We have heard that one many times, huh? Hopefully their hands will be forced eventually and then is when we should demand true justice. They have no evidence against this woman, she at least deserves a new trial with all evidence. If she were a rapist she would get it! Look at that woman's wounds, the jury never did. I am not sure whoever her lawyer was shouldn't be charged, look at ll he failed to bring up or show that jury..that some have said if they had sen what they see now. Isn't that alone enough fora new trial?
We seem to have either many ignorant or crooked people in this case, and even if Darlie gets her new trial and proved innocent and Darlie is compensated (and how is that possible?) these people will never have to pay. They may give them a vacation with pay until everyone forgets maybe. There is so much of the judicial system in all of America needing a serious investigation of why they are the way they are and in my opinion, much of America needs a clean sweep
Look at link with Sylvia Chase 20/20
It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. Just knowing the jury did not see this picture is enough to get the woman a new trial, but no. Not only did she lose two children murdered but now her youngest in all theses years she can not get back. So one day she may get out and a big settlement. What about the ones who do things like this? Shouldn't they be locked up? I think so!
I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves; spraying silly puddy, laughing and acting so happy. Of course she killed those babies, I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her. I can't say that I accept this behavior even now but people are different and I know they are, it still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned.I am not the only one with a change of mind. Please look at this! Watch program segment, 20/20 Sylvia Chase.
With Darlie what I did not see was the same as others did not see, any proof, and how long will our rotten dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say, right or wrong and hiding information to make things go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands, defensive wounds, without one doubt.
I have read many true crime books and this is almost a common thing it has happened so often. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.
There is no doubt here?
Darin Routier admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, where someone would be breaking into their home. He has admitted having begun the 1st steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was planned to be done when no one was at home. No jury heard this admission.
The screen which investigators reported to the press as being cut from the inside was later proven in court to be cut from the outside.
Was there an improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter, due to mistakes she made in the transcript?
The attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he was said to have had a prearrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney supposedly stopped key experts for the defense from finishing forensic examinations.
Also of concern, which were never brought to the attention of the jury, comprised the pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. At least one juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs.
The prosecution has reportedly refused to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case. Why is it not readily available to all interested parties?
The advancements in DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing?
Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!
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Thank you, or for Darlie for sure. It is like crooks are all in our judicial system, and they don't want to waste time looking, if either were guilty why would they think her instead of him? Hopefully eventually she will be let go but to put her through all that and keep her from her baby now a boy. All can seem so hopeless at times, and unbelievable. God bless you too.
Funny how convicted murderer supporters always report seeing a "black car" lurking in the vicinity on the night of the crime. (Just like the OJ Simpson) Or a suspicious looking character in the area...wearing what? You guessed it...black clothes. I guess all the bad guys do wear black and drive black cars.
Give me a break she's guilty. Read the transcripts...the evidence is overwhelming. I fully support her having a new trial. I'll bet if she did the jury won't only find her guilty again...I'll bet they'll deliberate in less time than the first jury did.
Look at her...she did that to herself? You give me a break. I have a daughter about as ding batty as she is that would maybe do something like that over her child's grave (which made me think she was guilty too before I saw these pictures, which the jury never saw..what a lawyer!) but it doesn't make her a murderer. They have no more proof on her than a black car..so what? If you read enough, the father; her husband should be the suspect if they want one from inside the house, and what about the prints and blood that was not identified. She is going to deserve every million she gets when they finally let her go! And many of them should go to jail, this is lazy do-less judicial people and they had her guilty from day one.
It appears that there is reasonable doubt of guilt and innocence in the Darlie Routier case. So, why is this woman still in prison, why was so much evidence excluded from what was shown in court? what is wrong with the system?
Exactly and why isn't her lawyer in trouble. You can't look at that picture and think she would do that to herself, it is like so many many things wrong in our judicial system and most people do not want to talk about it. I can't believe no one has not managed to show reasonable doubt but maybe it is all in the same jurisdiction and no one can over-ride the original injustice, or so it would appear with so many on her side. I would point a finger more at the husband than her, he had a break in plotted. ????
This is so sad. Thank you for telling us the story. GBY.
Yes it really is. I don't see how any jury if they had seen this could convict her. GBYT
Wow, maybe the husband's business was in trouble. I think he did not stop the insurance thing. I think he did not think his wife would be blamed.
I hope it all turns out for the best.
Look at the JonBenet Ramsey case. That was so sad and never solved
Tina
Yes it is ridiculous that not one jury member got to see this photo and all the years she is losing with her only child left, already grown. Our law is just so dirty. I heard last night they have something more on the Ramsey case with the DNA found not belonging to any of the Ramseys. It didn't say when but I hope to not miss it and look at that poor mother of this child, what she had to have gone through. Thanks for stopping by and comments.
Crimes committed within the family in a state of mental alusinacion drug, alcohol, or money. In the town of Sorbas Andalusia crime took place Gijsels Marina, the daughter without cause hachasos killed his mother, in Amatlan of Mexico, Fernando Sandoval Losano killed his mother in the same way, and Licata, Maule Chile, Danilo Soto also proceeded with his mother. In Peru they are known murders of their mother Eva Fefer Bracamonte, Maria Teresa Cruzado Vera, Elizabeth Espino Vásquez, and Giuliana Llamoja Hilares. Is that moms can not even be confident of our own children? What happens in today's world never has seen ... It is a divine punishment? Or is that every day children are born with the defects of the ancestors, stress, depression and all the vices of modern society and governments no longer thrive. These echos are wondering if it's worth having children who will be our executioners. The murder of a mother is a crime that can not be forgiven. I still think that the heartless daughters deserve the death penalty.
I would agree completely with you if there is no doubt about the guilt. In a case like this the only way I can see she could be guilty is if she let her husband do this to her and then he would be the guilty surely, no one with half sense would go along with this and as I said the jury never saw this picture and talking to some jurors later they admitted it would have been a different decision if so, and it is not fair that this just keeps going on, no amount of money would make it be worth it and it seems now the only way they will let people like this out is to not have to say they are innocent and who wouldn't go along with anything to be free finally. Well there is a judge coming soon who knows all so they needn't think they have gotten by with anything whoever to what to whom!
Polly,
Excellent hub. Thats my home state of Texas for you.
Warmest regards,
Chris
Wow, christalluna and look at those wounds they didn't let the jury see and that woman is still in jail after all these years!!
this bitch killed them kids,wake up what dont you lot understand?she did the injurys to herself standing over the sink...then cleaned it up...did she even cry once?having a party for the kid she just killed is so sick she needs to be shot a thousand times...forensics dont lie and only idiots believe it can...i hope she rots in jail and i hope she see's those boys every time she closes her eyes,but i know she is too selfish to even care...fucking cunt...and all you idiots sticking up for her you are just as bad as her...and as far as the photos of her were not shown who cares its been established that she done it to her self so who wants to see it,you only need to see the photos of the dead boys and the stains of the boys blood on the back of her shirt when she stabbed them over and over again to know what happened,thank god the little baby was upstairs otherwise that baby would be dead too....hang the cunt soon
How did she get blood all over the "back" of her shirt stabbing them? That sounds like they came to her after being stabbed while she was sleeping. Whose blood was it in the house not identified. The husband was the only one with a plan to make something look like a burglary, why isn't he in jail or suspect?
If you people want to believe that Routier is innocent on blind faith, that is your right. But stop being ignorant and educate yourselves!!!!!!! The pictures of Routier's injuries were NOT withheld from the jury!!!! Her own attorney says they were shown, 11 other juror's say they were shown, the transcripts reflect that they were shown... and argued... EXTENSIVELY!!!!!!! HER INJURIES WERE THE STRONG-POINT OF HER DEFENSE!!!!!!! Get real, people! If you want to believe her then believe her but don't base that belief on LIES put out by her family and supporters. Base it on the blind faith you would have to have in order to believe her in spite of the very damning evidence against her. DAMN I'm sick of hearing people say that!
Pollyannalan Says:
"How did she get blood all over the "back" of her shirt stabbing them? That sounds like they came to her after being stabbed while she was sleeping."
You couldn't be more wrong. First of all, the blood you are referring to is cast-off, that's why it's so damning. She didn't get it by a child standing over her, she got it as she raised the knife over her head. She did nothing to render aid to her children. The only time she was close enough to them to get their blood on her is when she killed them. Secondly, the evidence shows that Devon died where he was attacked. He never moved. Damon was attacked in one spot then dragged his body towards the hallway where he was attacked for a second time... fatally.
"Whose blood was it in the house not identified."
There was NO unidentified blood in the house. NONE.
"The husband was the only one with a plan to make something look like a burglary, why isn't he in jail or suspect?"
Being the only uninjured adult in the house, Darin was the first suspect. But he was cleared rather quickly, as his version of events fit the evidence, unlike Darlie's ever-changing version of events.
" I would point a finger more at the husband than her, he had a break in plotted. ????"
There is not one ounce of evidence that proves that Darin did anything to plan a break-in. This was never even mentioned until 2004, right before one of Darlie's appeals. In Darin's affidavit he claims that he told "multiple people" about the burglary scam. I'm not too sure how many people plan an insurance scam and then tell "multiple people" about it. At any rate, if this were true, why didn't Darin bring this up before or during Darlie's trial, or to the police?? The burglary scam was an attempt to win an appeal for Darlie.
Jon Says:
"Funny how convicted murderer supporters always report seeing a "black car" lurking in the vicinity on the night of the crime. (Just like the OJ Simpson) Or a suspicious looking character in the area...wearing what? You guessed it...black clothes. I guess all the bad guys do wear black and drive black cars.
Give me a break she's guilty. Read the transcripts...the evidence is overwhelming. I fully support her having a new trial. I'll bet if she did the jury won't only find her guilty again...I'll bet they'll deliberate in less time than the first jury did."
Jon, there is no possible way that I could agree with you more than I do. Great point.
" I would point a finger more at the husband than her, he had a break in plotted. ????"
What is this? You are putting words I did not say? Did you read the story where they only went for the Dad in the 3 year old Riley Fox murder rape case only looking at the dad Kevin, boy they about had that one tied up. They watched that funeral too. When did the police become God? I have read countless books where the cops make up their mind in a few minutes and twist the facts to suit their theory. He was almost a goner. You must be some kind of enemy of this woman. Maybe I will read and see why someone lied and said the jury did not see the photos of Darlie's wounds. You sound like someone with more than a slight interest. As I said here I judged her from that funeral shooting those strings etc myself, then I thought of someone I know that would act that very same way and not be guilty of murder. Maybe even Darlie loves Darlie more than anyone else but that does not make her a murderer.
I never once doubted O J's guilt...you can see there how wrong trials can go I think...besides the Riley Fox case. Many cops are ex-prisoners, did you know that?
Pollyanna Says: "How about reading or explaining these. Cops making witnesses (nurses for some) change their statements, how does that sound to you...PAM?
Sounds like another misconception if you're referring to the Routier case.
Everyone here can read what I said so for you to keep repeating it over and over is a form of harassment to me that I don't have time for. I won't give my personal opinion but we will just say you think one way and I think another and I won't waste your time or allow you to waste mine. Those boys are as dead as they are ever going to be and if someone else had killed them going along with your idea that she did indeed kill them and only being charged with one, the judicial system would have already let that person walk away. Thank you for your opinion but you won't become a star here.
I went ahead and let it go in, approved it so you have had your say. The husband had a break in planned and no one suspects it could be related to that in any way? Well if I get time I will see how he walked away so free and I will leave links when I get time about the nurses and how first they said screen was cut from inside then it was proved from outside. Darlie is an idiot of which there are many, someone who lies about a screen is up to no good.It was always my understanding under arm bruising is defense wounds with our arms up to bar pain so I don't know your point there. You and I have finished our conversation.
She is clearly guilty !! . No pay to society .
Darlie's case has bugged me for a long time. There is no way there isn't reasonable doubt here. First of all, her wounds. It takes a real special kind of fortitude to self inflict alot of wounds. And without real medical knowledge, you can't just slice your own throat and hope you don't hit a major artery.
Her husband looks guilty to me. My theory has always been that he planned to kill her and the kids, but he couldn't bring himself to kill the baby. I think he hired someone to do this. And we're only getting half the story out of him. And now he feels guilty that Darlie is on death row so he's been trying to be supportive and get her help.
He should have been investigated a whole lot more. What exactly was he doing while all this stabbing was taking place? How did he not hear anything? Come on, those kids would have been screaming. Something isn't right there.
I believe that Darlie cannot remember alot of what happened. People who are traumatized like that will often block out what happened.
The silly string tape is damning no matter how you play it, but people react to grief in different ways. When my mother died, two weeks later, my cousin called me on the phone and I answered it sounding very up and happy and my cousin thought that was inappropriate and I should be crying and down, so she told me I was very mentally ill. No, I was projecting false happiness because it was the only way I could cope. She didn't see me all the rest of the time crying my eyes out.
In Darlie's case, I tend to lean toward her being innocent. I do not believe she was proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. And that there is the problem. There is room for reasonable doubt in her case, a whole lot of room, like the size of a moon crater.
Her husband admitted to planning a break in. It doesn't get more guilty than that. I think he got in with bad people. Maybe this was a robbery attempt by those people that got out of control. Or he really did plan to have Darlie and the boys killed. One way or the other, there is more to this story. And I really wish they would let Darlie have another day in court. She doesn't deserve to die, and certainly not when there is reasonable doubt.
It's more evident today that justice is not always severed. Sad story.
Carrigon, you hit it right on. That is exactly right and now he is divorcing her I have to wonder was there a reason he stayed married to her up til now like a time limit on how long it would be she could give any evidence against him and you know he probably even today is stringing her along to have her want him to remarry and go on without her. I have wondered so many times how they just passed over him knowing he had a break in planned. At any other time that man would be the one in jail! There is no doubt her wounds are real and who knows what really went on there and what her husband did but the screen was cut from the outside and there is a good chance his break in men did this. I would hope a parent could not do this to their own babies, but I feel sure Darlie did not and I did think she did at first with the way the media was making it look...until I saw those wounds that the defense did not show the jury...and the defense while protecting Darlie were also having to keep her husband looking innocent, they were his lawyers too!
Danielle from New Jersey, there you go, you have had your say.
DIY Backlinks, no it isn't and so many times the jury will say if they had known this or that they would have voted differently, which some said about Darlie that called her guilty; they did not see the wounds. So she should at least get a new trial based on that. So easy for some people and so hard for others. I doubt her husband has been pushing as hard as he has pretended to her.
Read the transcripts!!!! Read the autopsies!!! Read the fingerprint report!!! Those are FACTS!! There was an extremely bloody print on the table and the door leading to garage. This indicates that the "intruder" had a lot of blood on "him". So why was there not a drop found in garage, in yard, on fence, in alley.....etc.
Look at the woman's arms, remember there was another grown up in that house, he will always be suspect to me since seeing her arms she couldn't possibly fake a wound like that knowing he had a plan for a break in and as I said a few of the Jurors said if seen her wounds they would have had doubt and she would have got not guilty. What lawyer would not show those? He needs to be charged! You know the husband?
Kathleen Cooper you disgust me....how DARE you call my friend such horrible names. However, using that type of language speaks volumes about your severe lack of intellegence! Darlie is clearly innocent and there is overwhelming evidence pointing to an intruder. As we speak, there is DNA being tested that doesn't match ANYONE in the family or anyone at the crime scene. Who was the man that ran out of the house as the police approached....not Darin,you can hear him on the 911 call!! How did the sock get placed down the alley? It has been proven that Darlie was bleeding before the boys were stabbed so how would she get their blood on the sock but not her own as well as not a drop of blood on the ground? How about the fact that NONE of Devon's blood was found on the knife that killed Damon and was used on Darlie? THAT was why she was only charged with Damon's murder and not Devon's! Her wounds would be impossible to inflct on herself, which is backed up by the medical examiner Vincent DiMaio. There is not only a juror who has come forward to admit he got it wrong but Barbara Davis, author of Precious Angels has also done a 180 and now knows that Darlie is innocent. You can ask me ANY question and I can and will give you a factual answer. I have been friends with Darlie for 10 years but I came to believe in her before ever meeting her. I did extensive research and could CLEARLY see that she was not and is not guilty!!!!!!!!!!
Well thank you very much Gia, before I saw the wounds and just saw what the law wanted me to I thought she was guilty too, but after seeing those wounds and saw the fact there were two graveyard scenes and the public was only shown one, I had no doubt she was being railroaded. It does shock me though how easily the husband was left out, especially with them knowing he planned a break-in. Can you shine any light on the husband and the reason Darlie's lawyer did not show her wounds?
The people who are out here using foul language and hating my daughter are personally involved somehow in the wrong way. Cowards that hide under false ID's and won't dare give their real names, it is for a reason. We who know Darlie Lynn and CAN READ THE RECORD OURSELVES, know what is true and not true. Yes there are fingerprints in blood and latent prints that do not match Darlie Lynn or anyone that was suppose to be there at this crime scene. Yes anyone would question why this sock was found 96 (yes that's right) yards down the alley with no connection to Darlie Lynn. You that hate her, well as Christian all I can do is pray for you because God will protect her from liars and haters and his vengeance will be worse than anyone can imagine. Obviously you don't fear God or you would not be hating anyone. These same people hate me because I stand proudly with Darlie and defend the TRUTH. I am not guilty of anything so you haters are attacking me, the grandmother of two special little boys that I miss every day. People who are in this to just be right or defend the liars who were against Darlie Lynn will be dealt with accordingly and I would fear to walk in your hate-filled shoes.
Ma'am if you are talking to me then you have not read this article, I am defending your daughter, if you truly are her mother. Most people see her as innocent as I do and we cannot see why on earth she can't get a new trial. If there is anyone here specifically you want to say something to go ahead but please be aware I am not accusing your daughter, I AM defending her. I do not write for pay and my identity has nothing to do with anything.
Darlie Kee IS Darlie Lynn's mother and she has been and is still going through pure hell. She is a wonderful person and an amazing mother and grandmother. You can certainly see where Darlie Lynn gets her beautiful soul and outstanding character. Imagine having to read that vulgar hate about your child....it's hard enough on me as Darlie Lynn's friend, I can't even comprehend what it must be like for her! I do appreciate those who are defending her but the people who believe she's guilty NEVER have FACTS to back up their claim except maybe the lies they heard on TV.I know everything there is to know about this case, I came to an EDUCATED conclusion that she was innocent. I find it hilarious that Kathleen calls me an idiot for believing in Darlie yet she has no idea what proper english is....just proves my point, the haters are nothing but pe-judging, uneducated, moronic sheep that can't think for themselves!
I know you are defending her Polly. I don't know your real name but I am truly Darlie's mother. these same idiots are on websleuths and just full of it. I exposed one of them working for DA's office and one was actual Rowlett PD and I kept email after all this time.
There is so much more to this case and Greg Davis went to great lengths to win this by lies. He destroyed his own career finally. Same with Toby Shook.
I appreciate everyone who defends her. I usually don't get out on these sites because I know the truth and it will come out soon. But the lies they are spinning on here are crazy. Oh and by the way there was blood found on screen, although dismissed like from a mesquito instead of doing the right thing and testing it. And in the Rowlett's crime scene video, you see some blood, then more and more as police and paramedics destroyed crime scene. You see blood drops and then the same blood drops without centers because of being walked on instead of being preserved. If Dallas police and paramedics had been on this case Darlie would never of been arrested. They know how to work a crime scene. These RPD didn't know how to even take fingerprints.
Anyways I'm here to set record straight and let's fight with facts not lies. DNA does not lie and will forces these idiots to be proven wrong. In meantime, I wouldn't want to be any of these liars with their rotten foul mouths.
Giadonae, the first I heard of this case I believed she was guilty too because that is how the news media made it look with stories from the police I assume, although after finding out the husband had a break in planned I had to wonder but once I saw Darlie's defense wounds there was not a doubt in my mind. It is clear she could not do that to herself and I wonder if you or Darlie's mom knows why her lawyer did not show these to the jury, it definitely would have made a difference. A great difference!
Darlie Kee, there is another case here where they let the murderers go although they did serve about 18 years for what they did they deserve to die and I feel as strongly about that as I do your daughter's innocence. I can't see how on earth they can keep from giving her a retrial but if they wait much longer dear Lord what an injustice and probably they will make her sign she is guilty in order to get out and owe her nothing and that is the biggest rip off the judicial system pulls. I think they owe her big and it hurts me thinking about her little baby almost grown up without her. I know how hard it must be on you and you are welcome to come say anything you want. I am not worried to give my name because of your daughter but no I don't identify myself and if you saw many of my other hubs you would know why and I want to be free to fight for causes that need a fight and I can't do that dead. This article here has been read thousands of times so it can't harm anything and possible it will do some good, I can only try.
Thank you for coming back.
Darlie Kee and giadonae, I received your emails and you are welcome to put any and all information or opinions here that you want. This article seems to be of much interest based on the number of times it has been read. I will boost it at facebook today. Please tell us why your daughter is not getting a new trial when surely it is easy to see she deserves one. I, as many others; would like to be enlightened in anyway we can and if there is someway we can help, please let us know.
Ms. Kee, how are u? Do u remember meeting me at darlies hearing in 2006 in dallas? How has she been? I hope she gets out.
Ms. Kee, how are u? Do u remember meeting me at darlies hearing in 2006 in dallas? How has she been? I hope she gets out.
I think Darlie is innocent, I think her husband had part in it, like instead of just collecting insurance from the house, what about collecting her and the kids life insurance too?
That seems closer to the truth to me. I think she was a little silly as many of us are at that age, but that does not make her a murderer and no one ever gave a reason she would want to murder her children. Any mother knows the baby who was not killed would have been the hardest to care for at the ages they were not those young boys if that was a reason. It is a real shame her life is wasting away in prison, it really is. If a rapist murderer had killed them he would be walking free after this time, for sure. Thank you for your comments.
After reading / reviewing the ordeals of the case, There is NO possible way that She could of killed them, then cut herself / bruise herself. The time it would of taken to do all of that exceeds the time She had. From the videos, It looked like the police just wanted to " get the case over with, thats it ". It almost sounds like they were paid off. I also read that they said She was cut first, Now, with wounds as bad as Hers, She would not have survived if she did the killikg because, when a person moves, etc the heart rate speeds up, that artery would have burst being that close. I asked a few doctors and nurses to see what they thought the result would have been, all said " She would of bled to death due to being cut that close to it.No doubt about it.
Fredrick
Thank you so much Frederick for all that information. Still there she is and no one apparently can do a thing. It is so American, isn't it?
Well, Thinking about the way the officers,prosecutor was, All that mattered to them was getting a conviction so they looked good. That isn't justice, that is a joke.
It is a shame, She won to retest the items but most was too messed up to be used. There are some facebook support pages out there.
After thinking about and reading about 100 times, The only one that was in the house was Darin, His sock was found 75 feet away, a knife was by it, as well as a screwdriver. It was said Darlie's saliva was on the sock , to me, that indicates she was held down, then trying to fight back the person probably held her till she passed out, killed the boys, cut her up, they / he tried to make it look like she tried to kill herself.
then all suspicion was thrown on her. As for possibilities, Darin had that break in planned / set up, What if he told the person, i changed my mind, that person is going to want paid, etc for showing up, etc and that person only intended to kill darlie but she fought them off, the kids saw so they were killed. That sort of fits.
Then the prosecutor said her wounds were not serious, If that is true, Why did her surgery cost $12,000.00 plus She had to be in the hospital for 3 / 4 days. hmmmm that doesnt sound right to me.I must say, i was glad to see the prosecutor indicted, mainly to prove a point " what You do to others, usually comes back!"
Darin MIGHT be guilty, He failed 3 pollygraph tests. I was shocked when I read that.
Either way, they indicted a innocent woman. I hope She gets freed, If not, Her death will always linger over them because they knew She didn't do it.
Fredrick
Well Frederick it won't be the first time. I don't know what makes police act that way, you would think there would be one honest one among them to stop them. I heard more than one juror say if they had seen those defense wounds of hers they would not have found a guilty plea. That alone should grant a new trial. I may check out her support groups. Thank you.
I was on a facebook support site, oh I went to town there, I said, this has to be 1 of the most insane cases, i have ever read about. one asked me what i would call this case like they did years ago on the peoples court, i said oh that's easy:
Trial by media and bubble gum . the said " oh that is true.
i said, not to offend any in Texas but " don't buy gum in Texas or u will be convicted ". abour 20 group members said " you tell em, keep up the great job. ".
Honestly this case should of never happened, all they wanted was publicity and to look like they could do anything. texas law needs to change, get rid of the death penalty, 2 wrongs dont make a right, the death penalty is murder anyway u put it.
it is a shame, u see those that murder, get out, murder again etc. or they attack someone, get out, attack again but can't be charged for the same crime. if that is law, i am richer than Donald Trump and Bill Gates!
Texas law is so unfair, corrupt, etc it makes me sick that they can get away with it. Darin failed 3 pollygraph tests about it, hmmmm then reading more on their names, He was seen with another woman wit a small girl before their divorce! I still believe He is the guilty one.
I also heard Frederick that he and she had the same lawyer so how smart was that? Darlie's mother has been here and made comments and I got an email from her too (and a friend of hers) so I wish she would answer some of these questions for us. I meant to get out to Facebook today but it has been a very busy day and I write for more than one so it is time consuming. I will get there eventually and I notice I have a couple of links here.
Yes, he represented darin in a prior thing. That wasn't too smart. It is odd, they choose her, she practically would of gotten nothing, the boys funeral cost more than she would of gotten, darin had a 800,00 insurance policy, I think it went down like this, the scam was set up, darin left the door open, instead of the one that was to do the scam, someone else came in and killed kids, cut her up to look like a suicide and thought she'd die. as for the party, She didnt show emotion so the kids would not be scared. at first, the evidence pointed at darin, some still might.. well after the murders, there were other break ins where the person cut the screen and used a sock as a glove. the state totally ignored it, sain there was no connection between the crimes, that person got caught, odly though the exact same thing happened in their home..
hmmmm convicted due to silly string and chewing gum, it's crazy..
" Don't buy gum in texas or u will get convicted! "
if i was the judge, i would of had all evidence shown to me, without a doubt by seeing the pics, i would of thrown the case out..
It really should have been. She certainly seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I have followed this case from day one and I blame her conviction of the judge. Look at what was happening with the police and prosecutor is was apparent from day one she was railroaded. But he not only moved the case to a county that has a history of conviction but when the court reporter missed up the transcripts he allowed another court reporter to rebuild the transcripts in clear violation of state law. Not only this many things that he did not allow would have shined doubt on the case. This trail was corrupt from start to finish and she should get a new trail with a new judge and then I will believe the outcome.
To start just judging her actions I had her guilty which is very stupid and unfair but as I saw more and more people hiding half the facts that made her look normal I had to wonder and when I saw her defense wounds I had no doubt whatsoever. Thanks for commenting Tim.
I'm honestly confused about this entire case. There seem to be several unanswered questions on both sides, and I keep changing my mind and getting confused. It really doesn't make sense to me why, if Darlie were the murderer, she wouldn't kill baby Drake (well almost grown up Drake, now), or why there seem to be several things that don't add up. At the same time, though, it doesn't make sense to me that the babies would get killed first, or why the murders would even have occurred. A random stranger just breaking in without a weapon, apparently with the intent to kill since they didn't take anything, doesn't make any sense. Or why she's a light sleeper but didn't hear anything. I'm not even trying to be disrespectful, I'm just kind of torn.
Two things I'm confident of: Darin had absolutely SOMETHING to do with it and she should at least be granted a new trial.
If Darin where guilty it would answer your questions.
How much life insurance was there on Darlie? I think Darin had a lot to do with this. If he was willing to set up a robbery scam then I wouldn't doubt that he would arrange this. There is no possible way Darlie could inflict all those bruises on herself. It breaks my heart more every time her program is aired. You are in my prayers Darlie.
Thanks for your view Mardy and she is in the prayers of many. Such an injustice done to her and how they still are getting by with this I just don't know.
I still think of Darlie and wish there was a way for her to have a new trial. Maybe alot of us are drawn to her spirit. She has that inner goodness. I just wish people with some authority could see that. We may never know the real truth of what happened, but there are definitely enough unanswered questions to warrant a new trial. There is room for reasonable doubt. I hope she gets the miracle she deserves, and someone will really listen.
Carrigon, it is certainly not looking good to have gone so very long. I think I will check farther into it now and see if there is anything anyone can do, if as simple as writing letters, it could help her perhaps.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Any new news on her case? Has she been able to get a new trial or come anywhere close to a new one?
I am not finding it if she is. I wish her mother or friend would come back and tell us something. As soon as I do get word I will write about it. Thanks for caring, and stopping by Erica.
Darlie had the horrible misfortune of living in the state of Texas..... God help her!!
I have heard that but it is still America! I wish I could find some what to help. Ant direction I go in comes up dead space so I can't even get feedback. She does look doomed and an idiot could see the injustice here!
I have always had so much doubt about her guilt....what about the sock they found down the street or something? I remember that a sock from the home was found somewhere down the street with blood from one of the family members on it - investigators tried to insinuate they planted it? There didn't seem to be time for anyone to have done it.
I did see that video of her at the graves - and I didn't even think that made her look guilty. I have children and if something happened to one of them - I'd still try to show happiness as much as possible in front of them and everyone else. She didn't look as if she was made up or sparkling with diamonds that day...j thought she looked like she was trying to pretend everything was ok.
Glad you wrote this - I do think they should at minimum give her a new trial...I have so much doubt I just do not understand how she was ever convicted - especially thought her husband acted suspicious all the way through! Up and awesome!
Thank you so much RealHousewife. Why they never got after the husband who had a break in planned I will never know, but there lies the clue I believe.
I just finished a book on Darlie Routier and I am SHOCKED the jury convicted her. Her conviction is TERRIFYING!
I don't think Darlie would have been someone I would have ever made friends with out here in the free world, but just because her "lifestyle" doesn't meet my person preference does not make her a killer. Yet I'm pretty certain Darlie was convicted because of the excessive spending, cosmetic surgeries, not attending church, and the fun with male strippers.
And WTH was the deal with the GANGSTA'S PARADISE song? So what? I'm a country music fan but I still like that song. It has no obscenities and a very good message to young people living in inner or urban areas. Did those jurors listen?
I just do not get this. Set Casey Anthony free but convict Darlie Routier? Really? Sheesh!
Ok, rant over. Good hub! Voted up and useful! :)
Thanks Kim, all you say is so true and each week that goes by with no one getting her any closer to freedom I wonder at the world we live in that not one person can find justice for this mother. Thanks so much for visiting!
Darlie is Innocent. Anyone with half a brain would understand that given ALL the facts. Darlie's Mother is a blessing. I will support Darlie and Hank Skinner. The citizens of Texas should be appauled at our Injustice System. I support all wrongfully convicted prisoners. Texas has exhonerated over 37 people on Death Row......Wake up folks,,, we got problems...Failure. And it costs people their lives!!!
Let's see where do I start.
The marks from Darlie are from Devon kicking the shit out of her after she stabbed him.
The glass that was knocked from the bar is impossible to do unless you physically move it up and out.
I have discussed this ad nauseum in other forums if you want to talk about this let me know
Kathy I keep hearing that from Texas people and it is a real shame...but actually it is a shame of all the injustices in America we cannot seem to get rid of. I do wonder at this though with Darlie having so many on her side and seeing those defense wounds I know she did not intentionally make.
Polly look at the marks would they not be consistent with Devon kicking her? She should be given another trial soon, before key witnesses pass away. I think you should look at the relationship between Darin and her sister. I would love to educate you on why I believe she did this, let me know I would be happy to oblige.
No I have read many crime books Bobo and have seen other defense wounds identical to hers and knew that when I did finally see them. I had her guilty too until I saw all the things the police were doing to make her look guilty, like not showing her crying at that graveside before she started acting silly. Why did they have to do things like that? I expect our law enforcement to be up front and honest, which they are not. Look at JonBennet Ramsey's family. That was so horrible what they put them through and even cast bad light on her young brother....and I feel sure caused her mothers death. We can talk here, I will be glad to put anything here you like as long as the language is clean and civil, I don't deny different opinions.
I agree, Pollyannalana. When police have to "manipulate" their own evidence to get a conviction, it makes me seriously question the person's guilt. And I would hope that, if I was ever a defendant, someone on that jury would do the same. ESPECIALLY if they were going to sentence me to DEATH!
It really is about the most baffling thing I have ever heard of Kim. You know someone high up does know something and you know that woman should be free right now. Why everyone is turning their back on this case is a mystery I would certainly like an answer to.
This case is heart breaking, simply cause it involves two children suffering a death no one should. I have mixed views in regards to this case. However I do feel she deserves a new trial. What I have a hard time with is why would someone break in a home, brutally kill two boys, barley injure the mother, when compared to the boys injuries, and flee the scene. There was nothing missing from the home so robbery is out, so for me the whole thing doesn't add up. Also what about the blood spatter that supported darlie had sliced her neck because there was blood dripping from the counter by the sink that supported this type of self-inflicted injury? Also it was proved that blood in the kitchen was at one point before the police were called that someone attempted to clean up the blood by wiping it off the counters? This whole case is wrong, police developed a bias and focused soly on darlie from day one, all evidence should have been showed in court to be fair on both sides, and the husband should have been considered a suspect with darlie because how the hell does someone make those injuries on themselves? The answere is they don't and that is what makes the husband suspicious or the mere infact that their was an intruder. I have attempted by mail to contact darlie but with no luck and why is her husband divorcing darlie if he's so convinced in her guilt?
Jessica Meyer
I ment innocence at the end of my post.
Jessica Meyer
The police so tried to pin this on Darlie who can believe the evidence? Is it unheard of for police to change evidence? The husband had a break in planned. Evidence shows Darlie was within fractions of having a main artery cut, does that seem possible a woman could do that to themselves? Maybe the murderer thought Darlie was dead...maybe things happened Darlie doesn't even remember and she was up and about during this. All I know is they sure are leaving the husband out of this. Sounds like he has an inside friend to me.
J161980, I do agree the murder of the boys, the attacks on them FIRST (as if they were a target) is highly questionable. And I admit it is something that points directly at the parents. And maybe Darlie or Darin was responsible, BUT when the police manipulated their own evidence, attempted to dodge having the investigating officer on the stand for cross-examination AND decide it's Darlie within 30 minutes of arrival to the scene, I could not and would not vote guilty if on the jury. ESPECIALLY where a death sentence is going to be imposed.
I don't know if Darlie Routier is guilty or not, but I do know there was NOT enough evidence to convict her and that truly upsets me.
That is true, all you say. I wouldn't for a minute uphold any mother I thought guilty of murder, but being a terrible human does not make a murderer, even being a sociopath would not necessarily make her a murderer. I have just always wondered why no one in law makes that much of the fathers plan for a burglary. If on the jury I would have to have much more info on that. No, as I see it there are no grounds for her to be in jail and i will never believe she cut her own throat! Stupidity!
Me either, Pollyannalana, me either on upholding a mother who is guilty. And Darlie may be, for all know, but the evidence did not prove it and therefore, I have to assume innocence.
I think the reason no one is giving any credence to Darin's statement about the burglary plans is because he finally fessed up after SIX years. I have to wonder why he didn't step up before? Why would you let your wife go to prison instead of speaking up? Personally, I think Darin plays a very big role and Darlie took the fall.
I think too many people still believe that if the police say she did it, she must have done it. With all the releases we've seen lately thanks to DNA, society should be scrutinizing police statements with jaded eyes.
Well Kim, knowing you have read as many or more true crime than me, we both know how policemen can be, and some of it is pressure from the community to solve a case but in this instance that is just not true. Just like in the Ramsey case they built all the evidence around a preconceived idea! On this one I think they had to go out on a limb for some unknown reason and I do hope someone somewhere knows enough to lead us to the truth on this one. Even after all these years. Those two little boys still deserve justice and they did not get it. Even if Darlie played a part, she still did not do it alone or cut her own throat and I seriously doubt it was her plan or that she is the one to stab her own sons. I am just shocked a jury bought all that. But then they found OJ innocent so I guess they know how to pick juries.
Hey, I´m cassia from Brazil and I'm reading about this case a lot. Could you explain me the acusation alegations and defense alegations so I can make a better analysis? To me, it seems like she's inoccent, she couldn't made this injuries to herself, kill the boys, call 911 with the time all happened with one of them still alive. It seems like a brutal atack by someone who knew the house, by entering the house previously or been teached by someone (because "he" moved through the dark, knew who to attack and where to obtain the knife, then leaving easy and doing all this without woke up the father???) Seems so ilogical. Here in Brazil the jury and judge have so many care before convict someone without clear evidence and we don't have death penalty- and north america still call us 3rd world. Funny.
It really beats me Cassia. The most of what I am hearing is that it is because of the place she was tried. Apparently that must have something to do with it I think since she isn't being given a chance at all after all these years. I do not know how she has stood it as well as she has. I am glad you left a message, I was about to have the hub closed through a violation from one of the links I Have had here for months. Guess I will look more into that, so thanks!
I'm so glad I found this site.Her lawyer admits he didn't play the hour service at the grave site before the party because he didn't think it was a factor and that it was him who chose witch injury photos to show the jurors. Can she not get a new trial based on insufficient representation from the lawyers she had?
Well you would think Lameduck, but look at all the other evidence they have; such as an unknown bloody fingerprint or perhaps more than one. Why would that not do it. It was like a lynch mob after that woman and seems to still be! I think if something isn't done soon some heads should roll. Too many people seem to be blocking this and for what reason, we have to wonder.
Lameduck, Darlie has already filed her ineffective counsel appeal and it was rejected so, unfortunately, I doubt it'll ever be open for that reason again.
Sadly, I would have made the same decision as him. Of course, I would have fought for all it was worth to not allow the birthday party scenes to be shown either. The police recordings at the grave site were deemed "fruit of the poison tree" (even though it bore no fruit, so to speak) so the entire video should have been pitched.
@Pollyannalana, probably what's happened with this Hub is the ads were disabled because, as I've been told on many of mine, it describes a murder. You don't have to take it down, just reword it if you want the ads - which I'v found is VERY difficult when writing about true crime. lol
Thanks Kim but that was not the case and my only problem with it all is that I got no warning whatsoever, meaning this hub could have been snuffed out without me even having a chance to fix it. That is not right, but that is not the first time. I don't have ads, unless there is a hub they make me and on this one there are no ads allowed anyway, it says so.
I think it is so rotten for that woman to be in jail while our country is over-ridden with criminals and many illegal immigrants pushing drugs with a free permit (special-40) and that doesn't worry anyone. The Supreme Court should over-ride this injustice, we need more people screaming about it! Write letters or whatever it takes.
Oh bummer, Pollyannalana, I was hoping it was something simple like that. :(
This woman may very well be guilty. However, there is no less evidence pointing to her innocence than her guilt. Unless they can present undeniable proof that this crime was not the result of a crime committed by anyone other than this mother, our justice system has no business sending this woman to her death. I personally believe that there is reasonable doubt and there is no way I would have been able to convict this woman and sentence her to death as long as I felt her side of the story had a morsel of truth to it. I feel it was wrong of the court to deny the defense the opportunity and right to present evidentiary photos showing Routier's injuries. Self inflicted or not, they were relevant to the case and to the defense of this woman. She had every right to offer a plausible defense with proof that she was not the perpetrator. Those photos dont necessarily prove her innocense but they also do not prove her guilty. I dont think the prosecution should have been able to argue that her wounds were self inflicted without the defense being able to rebutt that accusation using the photos. The right thing to do was to present them and let the jury decide based on ALL the evidence.
I believe this case was presented unfairly and I believe that this woman's post crime antics at the grave of her child were a pivotal part in her being found guilty. Just because we may not approve of her behavior does not mean she is guilty of anything beyond tactlessness. As long as I feel there is even one shred of doubt in this case, I find it incredulous to ever execute this woman. She deserves to have a new trial and have all the evidence weighed by a jury of her peers. If their ruling remains unchanged, I would respect our justice system and those who had the difficult task of deciding this woman's guilt or innocence. However, knowing that there was evidence that could have weighed heavily on the decision of the jury but was never presented, I cannot support the sentence as it currently stands.
Absolutely Angel. I had her guilty just because of that graveyard scene when I first heard anything about this I am ashamed to say. I think we all would just be devastated but then finding out before this she had been bawling and we did not get to see that shows she was being made to look guilty right then. Just when you hope law will finally have a set of rule and not prejudge you hear of another case, such as many where they make a mentally challenged person confess and even believe they did it. They deserve more than fired I can tell you that.
Is it financing of retest or test of new samples the reason nothing new is being updated. I mean are there no updates in the past 2 years? I feel so bad for Darlie! I've done quite a bit of research on the internet and some would burn her at the stake, while other know the truth. The graveside birthday party was and is a deciding factor on the guilty verdict. I have a friend whose baby was full term but still born and every year we celebrate her birthday with silly string, a bubble machine and balloons. My friend is a minister and the first party was a week after she was buried. What is she guilty of? Should she be thrown out of the church. Hang in there Darlie. There are a lot of people in Canada that support you in many ways.
Angel - you're right on with your arguments. I don't think Darlie should have ever been found guilty, but to execute her could be an irreversible miscarriage of justice.
Polly - Maybe I'm just jaded, but the graveyard bit never bothered me. I've seen people, especially parents who've lost children, behave in what would otherwise be considered strange. All I can think is, "God bless them," because I'm not sure how I would handle it. I hope, beyond hope, those jurors felt Darlie guilty more on her princess-like lifestyle than the graveside party because Heaven forbid anyone of them wind up in those same shoes. :(
Lameduck1, it is so hard to get any new information. Her mother has commented here and a friend of hers and I had email address but because of privacy I did not keep it out of respect but I do wish she would come back and tell us something. Or the friend.
Kim, I do realize now how unfair that was of me but I had just heard of the murders and there she is dancing over the graves of stabbed sons, it just instantly turned me against her but had I seen her crying beforehand and showing remorse then of course I would know this was just a part of her personality; which I do know now. We are all only human. I can't remember exactly but it seems it was two of the jurors a few years back I saw on TV said if they had seen those defense wounds they would not have found her guilty and they may have been speaking for some other jurors too.
One of the jurors said that they watched the graveside birthday party video at least a dozen times and it was a huge factor in their verdict. It's so unjust. How people find Casey Anthony innocent and Darlie guilty just boggles the mind!
You sure have that one right. I can't believe they let that murderer walk free.
Oh, Polly, I hope you didn't take that as being directed at you. :( It was just a general statement to various comments I've read (not necessarily just here).
Lameduck, I agree. I respect the Casey Anthony verdict because I live by a rule that it's better to set ten guilty men (or women, in this case) free than to convict one innocent. But, dang, CA, for her flippant attitude alone after her daughter's "disappearance" made me believe guilty right out of the starting gate. But Darlie? I kept looking for the "surprise" evidence that would make me say, "Oh, well, there it is" but it never came.
No Kim you were just telling me your feelings and I was telling you mine and showing that I should not have been so quick to judge. But in this case I believe many mothers would have felt the same as me seeing that or people in general and that is what the law there wanted to happen and I call that entrapment, or just pure evil.
It just goes to show that a person's action are taken more into account than hard evidence. I'm going to write Darlie to see how she's coping. I am trying to bring her case back into awareness through facebook and through prayer groups. I want to thank you for this site and look forward to any news regarding Darlie's blight.
Thank you Lameduck1 and I hope to invest more time on this very soon because I know many are very interested and sorry for Darlie and surely there is something we can do.
We have to get her story back to the public. Some even little update soon hopefully!
We really should and I have thought that. It is really hard to get any real current updates though if anything is happening and every avenue I take seems to come to a dead end. Even ones asking for help!
lol, murderer lovers. forget this psycho, what about the kids? next time one of you loses someone, show up with some silly string at the service. i dare you.
If she had been attacked, she would have screamed to high heaven, undoubtedly waking up her husband. Both her sons were stabbed. One was stabbed with such force that it passed through his body and striking the concrete. Darlie had her neck superficially cut. I'd have to think she'd have been stabbed with the same force. Those arguable defense wounds are pretty weak in lieu of the intensity used in the other attacks and could easily have been self inflicted. Then there is the 911 call itself. She basically starts discussing the forensics of the case, even stating that she picked up the knife. Someone who has just had two of her children would most assuredly have omitted such details having only the well being of her children in mind. Don't get me wrong. I'm aware of the problems concerning our judicial system. There are many in humanities occurring all the time. I read somewhere that the courts are right 90% of the time. There are so many extraneous things involved in each case and each case is unique. Mistakes will happen at times. With this case however, I'd have to profess her guilt. Things just don't add up.
sickofitall, pray tell you never get half slaughtered and then thrown in jail to await execution.
Sickofitall:- I have shown up to grave side birthdays and memorial services with silly string and a bubble machine. Do I belong on death row?
Droc, after seeing Darlie's wounds and knowing all there is to know I can only suppose that the struggle and getting her throat cut, which if you read was close to being a fatal cut I don't think a ding bat could pull off, I think she was passed out awhile or mentally lost some time. What I would like to know is though, why everyone who wants to blame Darlie never questions why the father who had a break-in planned heard nothing until it was all over. If Darlie's blood was not checked that night which it was not, who is to say she was not sedated? What about the other unidentified prints? The sock found away from the house that everyone admits Darlie could not have done? Too many what ifs for Darlie, her husband? Well, why was he not number one suspect I ask.
Exactly! How on earth did she bruise herself so badly and get stabbed the way she did when she is left handed.
@polly. I agree him not being aware is very suspicious. That is probably something we will ever know. He was quickly cleared as a suspect. The thing that really sticks with me is that 911 call. So many strange circumstances to consider with this case. I doubt we'll ever know what actually happened. Those two poor boys. I don't feel justice was adequately served. There is much more to this case.
Lameduck, hands down that absolutely proves she did not kill those boys or cut her own throat.
Droc, her husband planned a break in, admittedly. Why was he so quickly dropped as a suspect? I suppose one could say possibly Darlie helped cover for him because the break in went wrong and he scared her into not implicating him and possibly he did want her dead too? Could he have been giving her words to say as she is talking? Could she be covering just to keep him out of trouble but not thinking he is guilty? I don't think so though because I do not believe she would cover because of her sons being killed, for any reason. This woman was good to her children and many other children in the community and someone like that does not brutally kill all of a sudden and was the blood on her splattered from her sons? No. The husband has walked out of this smelling too much like a rose to make me super suspicious of his involvement and the fact all the law enforcement are blind to seeing him as a suspect knowing what they know. That is where everyone's doubts should be.
It still doesn't explain the three unknown finger prints. The one in blood on the coffee table, the one in blood on the back door handle or the one below it on the door.
I am not sure now how many or where but being any at all makes it an open case to me. Someone else was there! It looks as though it may take God Himself to free this woman. I cannot see why nothing can be done. I would say isn't this America, but I have discovered that no it is not. America is gone.
I'm from Canada where we don't have the death penalty. Which is a good thing with the number of people who were and some still are wrongfully convicted. Why can't people in authority just admit they make mistakes.
I have no idea why. Many times they won't agree to let them out when they know they were wrong unless they agree not to sue them. The title of that bribery I have no idea but of course people will say yes to anything to get out. There is something more to this story than meets the eye I feel sure. Someone knows the truth and what is going on, maybe someone will leave a little hint one day, but they better leave it in the right hands.
She deserves a re-trial. Look at how conflicted opinions are even here. DNA testing is better now, too. I doubt Darlie's guilt and in the same breath doubt Darin's innocence. God Bless Drake for having to deal with all this and Darlie's friends and family, too. I would like to know where she currently stands.
So would I Trscy and I keep hoping a friend or relative will stop by and tell us. There are quite a few thousand to looking over this and so many would like to know. I hit a dead end every way I go.
In my opinion, if she was tried today the outcome would be very different. DNA was still pretty new back then and people were still uncertain of it.
I would only hope so Lameduck, if I had been more aware as it was happening I would certainly have tried to take a part.
I've been reading the trial transcripts. There were at least 14 adults in the crime scene before it was turned over to the crime scene unit at 7 am that morning. How could anyone truly decipher what happened?
Yes I remember now hearing something about that. I guess I wonder about her everyday and what she is feeling and thinking and how she can stand it.
her boobs are so big, OMG, does anyone know how big they are? Are they real?
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i believe this poor women was set up by her own husband and an accomplice in a bad insurance scam
Something is certainly suspicious and I sometime wonder if now she is not protecting him, James. The longer it goes to more doubtful it gets we will ever know the truth.
I have been doing nothing but research and reading trial transcripts. She did not have a fair trial or proper representation on her legal team.
I left a link at the top Lameduck, it doesn't say much but looks like a chance for hope, looking into DNA it sounds unless everything has been destroyed, which would not surprise me.
There are alot of people that are ssaying that Darlie's wounds were self inflicted...Are you people idiots?? There is no way those are self inflicted, and fact is, the only one who really had motive was Darin. Secondly, this case has alot of Cameron Todd Willingham in it, because she is being railroaded just like he was, and we all know what happened to him.
I completely agree with you Carl.
Polly....I purposely searched for any hub on this case...& came upon yours via Google...Congrats, BTW, you're on Page One!
I have never completely lost interest in this case due the unsettled feeling I was left with, originally.
There is a mile of comments here I want to read over when I've the spare time....asap. I've been hoping that something (anything) would have been brought up in a current news programs, but it seems Darlie has been forgotten and abandoned.
The question of her "husband," has always bothered me...however, I do not believe she would have or could have remained silent and been a martyr for him....WHY? this is an excellent Hub on this case!! UP++
Thank you fpherj48, what a handle first of all! This case really interests me too and I think now there could be hope for her with them rechecking some DNA. I hope there will finally be a new investigation. Great to hear I am on page one and I do have a growing number of reads, think I will hit 10,000 soon. Too bad I am not on ads! Thanks for the votes but mostly thanks for stopping by to read.
Pollyanalana......For future reference....yea, I know my handle seems like a weird one....It is actually a sequence of initials. However, in the interest of simplification, I am known by fellow-hubbers, endearingly as "Effer".....and I even have a given name, "Paula." You make take your choice!!
Thanks for coming back and I will choose Paula since I can remember that. Loved the song, "Hey Paula".
just protest like the Trayvon Martin case only for innocent
I believe the evidence in this case is overwhelming in showing Darlies guilt.The blood that was cleaned away,the close proximity to the boys when they were stabbed,the difference in type of wounds Darlie sustained,the convenience of her letting them all sleep downstairs on the terrible night!The lack of blood outside the house,the bread knife with fibers on from slashing the screen door to name a just a few things!It really is a simple common sense case.Guilty people,especially sociopaths will claim they are innocent untill they die!They do not feel guilt or suffer from a consience so can lie with freely.It actually amazes me how easily fooled people can be when someone proclaims innocence.They say it therefore it must be true!!Darlie joins many other sociopathic killers who proclaim their innocence and have sights dedicated to proving their warped claims.Jeffrey Mcdonald,Dianne Downs,Jeremy bamber in england and of course the ones who charmed the jury and walked,O.J anyone!Those little boys deserve to rest in peace and gullible people fighting on behalf of their killer is unfortunately a product of society refusing to accept what is staring you in the face.As much as it is abhorrant to most of us mothers kill and abuse their kids every day all over the world.Only the physcopaths like Darlie make up the bushy haired stranger defence however.Has anyone who believes Darlies tale wondered if there was a phsyco madman in Texas that evening where he has been for the last 15 years??Has he retired after one night of horryfying violence?I don,t believe in the death penalty but i do think Darlie desrves to die in prison and thankfully judges and appeal courts look at evidence and not smoke and mirrors thrown about by defence teams trying to make a name for themselves in infamous cases.
Maybe she is covering for her husband and that is as far as I can go with her guilt which would be very bad, but I will never believe she did that to herself and missed killing herself so closely. The husband could have done all the things you mentioned to make her look guilty and why does everyone keep forgetting he planned a break in? Well in a few more days if they aren't pulling more tricks there should be more evidence. Why do police always screw up these questionable cases and try to make someone "look" guilty whether they are or not. Have we all forgotten Patsy Ramsey, JonBenets mother? They may as well has just killed her right away instead of the miserable death that I see they caused her.
I m from Pakistan and I m not sure she about the sentence that it should be given to darlie routier.
Thank you Kamran, I totally agree.
Micky Dee Level 4 Commenter 24 months ago
Gee willickers- I thought there would be hundreds of people signing and commenting! I have written hubs about the "injustice system" of the US. I got a luke-warm response. Our "injustice system" has ruined more lives than 911. I say this often, "do a search for the falsely imprisoned - the search will never end." I say more lives just put to death - more than 911. But lives are ruined and stunted every day in this silly system of buying, with money, a "lawyer" to keep a judge from killing you! What we have is a giant pompous waste of time and LIVES! The "injustice system of the United States of America is a lie and does not work - it is horrible for too many people.
Thank you for this hub. I signed the petition. God bless you!